Congrats On Your Sale... Stop Saying That!

I agree with that Mike
I can't understand what is its point :)

I understand the disappointing part.

But on the other hand, when I sold prints, not too many noticed, so I was disappointed a bit not to get more of those comments when it happened :) As well the sale is not visible on the front when is not a print if I understand, so when I finally started to sell prints too, I was waiting for more congrats messages, you see, for me exactly the opposite...

For me personally feels nice to receive that messages , and I think the comments look convincing for the visitors, that the Artwork was sold several times, even if you didn't sell just right then when the comment was made.

Conclusion, everybody please feel free to comment congratulations on mine :D And let Mike in peace :)))

for the last few days i've been getting the sales thing. some of these sold a year ago.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

I'd like an automated way to replace every "congratulations on your sale" with something like "amazing work" or "unique and fascinating photo". :-)

I would be upset too, I feel your frustration.

But it is also a price being popular, so probably embrace it :) I just get comments if I really do something, its mean they are not checking my stuff only for their pleasure... They like what you do, that it is, I think it is positive Mike, even if it is frustrating if there are not actual sale.

I learned that from the beginning, that likes, comments, favs, do not make sales, but I still love that part, to receive them, whatever they write :) silly me, but I am like that

it doesn't make sales, but i wish the commenters were original. doesn't do anyone much good to copy what the last guy said. i miss the days where the comments were dated.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

No good deed goes unpunished. Sheesh...

how is it a good deed, when all they are doing is copying what the last guy said? they would have to dig down into the images to find it, and they couldn't say anything original?


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

..........congrats mike .....I'm sold........

Greetings Mike, oh my goodness, I am sure you are frustrated you are aware of a glitch going around the 10,000 comments, what can I say be thankful none of your images has 10,000 Congrats on Your Sale smiling!!! OMG, that would be just terrible.....in my own opinion.....

ROTFLOL at Michaels response, I actually spit my coffee out at the coffee shop then rolled on the floor.

I am confused if my memory serves correct didn't you reply once you do not make comments on anyone's work which is a personal preference yet at the same time you are requesting "stop saying that" then no one would respond? I am confused now.....

Personally I am proud to say any comment of congrats I ever made was hand typed not copy and paste.....


Cheers from Nawlins Tis The Season Mardi Gras, Mardi Gras is February 28, 2017

Buy mine I promise to say nothing lol.

Hello Jestephotography, lol, lol, lol.....I highly encourage everyone to comment on my images sold or otherwise, lol, lol, lol.....

Dashing off to view Todays Sales and if its an extraordinary image its my preference to make the comment as I do from time to time.

Cheers from Nawlins, Tis The Season In New Orleans, Mardi Gras, Mardi Gras is February 27, 2017

i'm a little curious what happened to saba... be begged, account was there, his reply was first, and now he's a jumble?


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

He keeps closing the accounts.

he's a hard one to figure out...


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

Just asking, why not PM the few people doing this? Let them know the work has not recently sold?

Dave

because i don't want to embarrass them directly, and i don't want to have to waste my time. every day i seem to get a few people. one guy posted it from 2 accounts.

folks, your not getting a sale because you posted on a person that had a sale. doubtfully customers will click on random links from people that posted comments.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

I dont think they are doing themselves a favor hoping for errand clicks.

Dave

Mike, it obvious the comment field is a courteous feature of the site, it also adds all the daily comments were made on any particular image. As far as having any effect on a potential customer it may have an effect or not. Regardless how or the source the comments were generated if I saw an image with over 1,000 comments in one day from other members, I too will take a look if I make a comment or not its my preference. I doubt the site will remove the comment field and also do not think the site will inforce please do not write Congrats on a members comment field!!!. This topic has of course been in the discussion feed and it does occasionally come to surface.

Personally when I visit the sales area if I see something worthy of a genuine comment I do not hesitate one moment to share with a fellow member and from my perspective its a masterful painting or photography with congrats. I am thankful individuals comment on my images why I had a couple of sales and did not receive emails about the announcement and found out by seeing it in the comment filed by other members or I stumbled upon it on my own by viewing behind the scene sales.

I do not think anyone but a buyer would know if they did or not happen to click at random another member gallery. Also many sales have in fact been generated by member comments in discussions and also image post discussions. Its part of networking within the site and not to mention the many top sellers do not take the time out to thank a fellow member or reply to a comment its a personal preference.

Mike you had mentioned folks you are not getting sales by making a comment, day in day out how many members remain in the discussion forums does that or does not generate attention to a potential buyer, I would have to say it could and does have a direct affect on being found by viewing the discussion forums and google searches and keywords.

Having the comment field is certainly an advantage over other POD sites who do not have comment fields. That one feature is what set Fine Art America apart from all the other marketing sites enable any member to make a comment or none at all it enables networking among members.

Cheers from Nawlins, Tis The Season In New Orleans Mardi Gras, Mardi Gras is February 28, 2017

I stopped saying that long time ago. I do like you suggest, I compliment the artwork. .......

Mikie, Lol. lol, lol, well it looks like I got what I wanted another image recently commented on had the infamous 10,000 comments attached to it, I sure hope that glitch gets fixed soon fpr the being I do not mind seeing 10,000 comments on one of my images

Cheers from Nawlins Tis The Season In New Orleans Mardi Gras, Mardi Gras is February 28, 2017

Many times, I'm not particularly fond of the art piece, but I may genuinely want to congratulate someone for the good fortune of having their work sell.

I would speculate that this complaint would not come from those who have mediocre sales but from those that have had the good fortune and ability to sell well (at least compared to many others). Where's my violin?

Speechless.

(Well, I came up with a handful of words which don't even come close to conveying my feelings on this topic.)

Thank you for the containment, Wendy :)

Mike,
When I first joined FAA, I wanted to learn as I really didn't know what I was doing. I figured the best way I could learn was to "follow" those who were selling. At the time I didn't even know where to find the "sales" page, to see who was selling. But I did know how to watch the "activity" page. You were one of the artists I chose to follow simply because I was seeing those "Congratulations on your sale..." comments that were being posted on your work. I figured if you were selling, besides the fact your is outstanding, you really knew what you were doing, so you could teach me and actually you did, even though you may not know it.
So, those aggravating "congratulations" comments are probably getting you lots of followers from the new artists, who in turn are probably helping you be seen more often and may contribute a small amount to more sales, maybe??? So this thought might make it just a little less aggravating for you? lol...

Karen Wiles
http://karen-wiles.pixels.com

its sort of like you tell a joke, people laugh and give a witty compliment. 2 hours later a guy walks in and laughs at the joke you said 2 hours ago and gives the same witty compliment because they overheard someone else saying it.

when i get a number of these in a row. when they were not on a sales page, i have to wonder where they found it and why bother? these images are only listed on sales pages, the chances of simply finding them and they happen to have sold, those odds are low. and when the same person signs in twice under different accounts just to add their name, i think that's sad.

if you come from the sales page, then that's fine. that would be a normal reaction. but when the image is stale, that's strange.



---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

This is a little bit freaky, but in the activity feed I just saw that I was congratulated on 2 sales and I hadn't received any FAA emails about these new orders.. I looked behind the scenes to see I made 2 sales. This is the 3rd time I haven't received an FAA email about a sale.

that's when its good. its bad when there isn't any. makes it look like they were canceled or something happened to it. my bookmark for this place is that sales page, the mail has been late by as much as 30 min. they aren't synced. so every 5-10min i log in to see if i have something.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

I was just thinking about this yesterday.

Of course I recognize people are just trying to be nice and supportive, but I don't like it either. It's not helpful to potential buyers. It's also not luck that I sell. Who walks into a Nordstrom and congratulates them on selling? It's my job. I work hard for my sales. I would much prefer, and really do appreciate, comments on the content of my work.

But since 90%+ of my comments are "congrats on your sale", I'm thinking about disabling the comments altogether. Anyone know if/how we can do that?

Cynthia,

On the AW you go into the edit section >> Artwork Pages >> comments set to NO.

I have done that a while back. Only because comments dragging all the way down the page, although I only have a couple of pages that way here, do not matter or help.

I do believe fewer distractions is better. In that I never add links now a days to my bio etc.

Dave

I think if thats all you have to worry about, your doing okay.

On many of my images, I do get really nice comments on the work, some very thoughtful. But overall, I wonder if comments look... unprofessional? I'm starting to lean that way, anyway. I'll try turning them off for a while and see if anything changes.

Thanks Dave!


EDIT: Oh I knew that about the AW, had those comments off forever. can we turn them off here on FAA?

I really wish there was a way to turn off comments on my work all together. I spend very little time with the social aspect of FAA, and don't take the time to acknowledge the comments that are left for me.

While I realize that comments, (especially "congrats on your sale") will have little affect on a potential buyer's decision...I do feel that a bunch of unacknowledged comments on my work could potentially make me look bad. Of course, the alternative is to delete all comments...but I don't feel great about deleting a comment that someone was thoughtful enough to take the time to leave.

Why can't we just turn off comments alltogether?

No way to turn them off here, but I never advertise here.

No paying member should be advertising here, but many sellers who do better than I do run ads to come back here.

Control of the page by the viewers here is minimal. Meaning keeping people contained to your profile is next to impossible.

Dave

If you don't have anything to say about the artwork why say anything at all? That's how I feel about it anyway.

I do send traffic to my artist website, when I do advertise, but I'm pretty certain that the majority of my sales are generated by FAA's search.

I tend to not worry about the things I can't control, but it sure would be nice to opt out of comments here like we can on the artist website.

DISCLAIMER: The following is not aimed at anyone particularly but is made in general.

This is another one of those none-issues that too may people may be spending too much time worrying about.

If you are making sales and the site is working for you, what difference does it make who does or does not leave what comments? Someone taking the time to leave a comment is a courtesy and a nice thing to do. I am not about to chew anyone out for doing it.

Also, we are lead to believe that comments do help, even if it is ever so slightly, in the search rankings. I am not going to remove any, myself and I appreciate everyone that takes the time to leave one.

If you are selling, the old rule of "if it works, don't fix it" comes to mind. Just accept the comments and ignore them. I don't think many shoppers give a hoot about the comments and how old they are. The exception would be negative comments like has been known to happen, usually on politically sensitive images but other exceptions as well.

Second, if you are not selling much or anything, worrying about the comments at all is like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. You've got bigger problems to worry about.

i like comments overall. as long as they say something more than - nice shot, nice photo, congrats etc. real dialog, google likes that. it adds words to my site. so i don't want that off. but considering artists want to create their own visions, you would think they would be a little more creative about their comments as well.

when someone says congrats - and it wasn't actually sold, its like that weirdo behind the new reporter - making peace signs and waving - its all just to get attention.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

"No paying member should be advertising here'

To me that is a much, much bigger issue than comments.

I see people posting to Facebook groups with links back to FAA or Pixels instead of their AW.... big mistake, IMHO.

Much, much bigger mistake and/or issue than anything to do with comments being left on or off or what they say.

its not a worry. its an annoyance.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

its like this. your dog is sitting on the floor waiting for the master to come home. he hears a noise at the door, the dog gets up and is happy, his tail is wagging... and then the sound goes away, the door never opens and the dog goes back a little less happy.

that's what it feels like.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

Darling Mike, I do solemnly swear never to congratulate you on a sale again.

However .. though I don't have NEARLY as many sales as you do, I've never had what you're describing happen to me. I welcome any and all congratz messages. And ... unless I personally hear otherwise, I will continue to share in the excitement of my friends when their good news pops up on the sales pages.

: ))

(ps ... loved what Floyd said above "no good deed goes unpunished" ... laughing ... so true!!!!!!!)

; ))

What bugs me is all those repetitious, identical "Congratulations on your sale!" comments. Not doubt most of the commenters have only good intentions, but unfortunately these comments look like some sort of attempt to 'game' the site. I think they actually inhibit future sales.

you can congratulate me all you want, as long as i actually had a sale. because then, it makes sense. when i didn't make a sale, and i got a congrats on your sale, i don't like seeing that.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

"Congratulations on your sale! I see you're becoming quite the photographer! Did you do this with the camera your Uncle Carl and I gave you for Christmas? Love, Aunt Edna"

Hello Mike, I thought of something worthy of your discussion and just may be a remedy for you. Since Fine Art America has the technology for toggle switches on/off why couldn't there be something to opt out of receiving messages? You are aware about the glitch which many members are getting on their images in there activity stream, perhaps some of those comments aren't even for you image, it seems comments are randomly now being shared all over the place......

Something else which may relieve your anguish or sense of being annoyed why not place a disclaimer in your photographer notes, but then that might appear as an odd to a potential buyer.

Cynthia brought up a good point the switch to turn on or off is on AW site but not Fine Art America? Why is that option not available here at Fine Art America? Does anyone know that answer?

Jessica, I had mentioned that above, same here I had sales which I did not even know about and just happen to catch the congrats on my activity feed then went behind the scenes and sure enough I made a sale.

Cheers from Nawlins, Tis The Season In New Orleans Mardi Gras, Mardi Gras is February 28, 2017

i don't want to not get messages. i would much rather see the date of the comments so others can see that the sale happened in 2014.

i don't look at the activity screen to see if i have the glitch or not. i get the daily comment mail. the comments are on in FAA, because the site likes to generate as many internal links as it can.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

This may have already been brought up, but it looks like a few members just go onto the recently sold pages and comment with the same "congrats on your sale" on just about everything. Pretty sure that is for his/her own exposure and not genuine. I know, because these people are following my work, but I never-to-rarely get a comment on anything I upload, so they are not looking at the activity stream, only looking at sellers to ride their success. But whatever. They are free to do that, irritating as it is.

Mike,

Let me be the first to say it,

"too bad about your sale"

LOL

You happy now?

LOL

Dave

that makes no sense.

i make a sale in 2014

i get a comment - congrats on your sale - the other day. but it hasn't sold recently.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

David, that was good and sure should cheer Mike.....lol, lol, lol.

Mike, the option to receive or not receive comments would help you a lot or limit the emails. The 10,000 glitch is occurring when you first sign onto your account in that activity stream then after you sign on and go behind the scenes and look at the activity from that link you do not see it. There were many times past if I get a comment in the activity stream and I did not look close one image has normal count of comments, the second identical image has 10,000 comments this is the glitch I am speaking of myself and many other it seems its occurring with them as well.

Cheers from Nawlins and Tis The Season In New Orleans Mardi Gras

You've sold quite a bit, so chances are you've got a lot of congrats on your images. It's too bad that you have to ignore the congrats, but in your case, you wouldn't know which were recent sales or not. I don't see any other solution. It's not a terrible problem to have, lol. I know how you feel, though, as I got one of those and was pleased that it sold again, only to find that wasn't the case. I can't imagine what it would be like to get those daily (or how ever often it happens). If you have frequent offenders, you could shoot them a nice, friendly email explaining the situation.

Mike that does not make sense at all, is it always the same individual or individuals....or is it just someone happen upon and noticed that particular was in fact sold and giving you a belated congrats. It does seem if someone were going to just give congrats they would reply to all of them. That is weird, unless someone that may well be something connected with this 10,000 comments, its not just one particular image it attaches itself to any photograph in a gallery or in the activity. When you open up to view all the comments what you see is the wording This is a test Sean conducting a test, when you scroll down to the end someone of the comments are duplicated by many individuals 10,000 different members.....anyone not paying attention when they view an image in the activity stream look very close you are not commenting to the image with states 10,000 comments. Something in that 10,000 coded and then reattaches itself to another member and a different image.

Last night I received a comment in one of my images stating was Bill Wallace and myself really here? It seems anyone making comments are being posted on other member account images unrelated to the image you initially commented upon. There is someone sort of coding in that 10,000. Its happened to me now 3 or 4 different images occasions now.

its usually not the same person, its different people. just on old images.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

Mike,

I just got a rude awakening myself, seriously same sort of thing.

I just looked at my G+ notes. Someone +1'ed my Happy New Years Dec. 2015.....just a few hours ago.

That actually was a strange thing. I kind of agree with you now.

BUTT.......this goes to another related larger matter. Ever Fresh dating or lack thereof dating. Yes the artists needs to know when the image or comments were posted, but the public does not.

You have six year old images dated 2011 here on FAA. Imagine if people see them and do not know they are dated 2011 or see any date at all?

Dave

First time I have been scanning the recently sold page in years. Just LOOKING for a sale by Mike to comment on.

heh

JC,

Write in something like I loved this when you first posted it in 2012. Inspiring now as then.

LOL

Dave

sales are slow right now. so to see a sale - that someone else saw. and finding out its a non sale, its simply annoying.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

I think Patricia has the answer in that it may be new members thinking they are being helpful, not actually looking at when it was really sold. It's like when new people on a forum pull up a 5 year old thread and either comment or ask a question of the OP who hasn't posted in 2 years.

I just want sales so I can be congratulated! Lol

This is one of those problems I wish I had.

I can imagine, only people who sell a lot are tired of hearing that, I'd welcome it a bit more to be honest.

Okay.

Lets lower the bar just a little more.

Congratulation$ on your $ale.

luckily people stopped the $ stuff.

see i don't mind seeing the congrats if i got that sale. i just don't want to see it if i didn't.

if one person did it over and over, i would email them. i've had people comment on every single image --- nic shot (spelled like that), then emailed him to simply stop it, its annoying. and eventually he did.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

First world problems.....

I do get it though. When I see a new comment that says congrats on your sale on something that hasn't sold in months I get all excited and think I might finally have missed a sales email but alas it was just someone repeating a comment they saw that had been made months before.

Life is an emotional roller coaster. There you have it. LOL

Dave

I can see why Mike would find this annoying, it's so repetitive.

I like it though because it tells me that I sold something and I wouldn't know if people didn't congratulate me.

Well he could always make all his galleries private. End of problem!

Not to throw a wrench in this convo, but I recently saw the baby name: "Ca$h Money"

I once considered "Spare Change" but was overruled.

-YoPedro
Twitter@YoPedro

Pedro,

Since we are talking baby names, my BIL wanted Diego as in "let's ride Diego". Or Balthazar or something of a list of 12 unique and up lifting names for his first born son.

My family got a partial win allowing him Milo.

My dad had three kids and one entry in the contest for all three....Ruthy Lucy.

Dave......I was not tarnished with that name after all.....

So I just speaking of devil, I have in my Activity Feed, that I got 10482 comments on the following artwork... but no artwork there to check my thousand of lovely messages...

There are only two comments one say : thousands of comments here, and the other, that thank you... and when I click on the thing, it is just thinking

So Mike you just dont complain please lol...

And what now?

edit: I was able to see the comments on my laptop.. thousands of random comments from everybody to everywhere.. Does anybody else experiencing this?

I have had this happen many times, where I get congratulated but had no sale for a long time on that image. It made me worry that FAA might have pulled a fast one or two...or three. So I've asked artist WHY did you just congratulate me? And they all said they read comments that said I had sold one. I agree, just comment on the art at that point unless you witnessed the sale yourself...

Someone took my joke seriously, so I am deleting it.

Dave