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Rich Franco

5 Years Ago

Uploading Images Or What I Did Over My Summer Vacation!

Hello to All!

What's more fun, a root canal or uploading images here? After spending the last 2 days uploading 90+ images, I know MY ANSWER! LOL!

In order to get 90+ images, I actually had to upload an additional 24, some a couple of times. Best case, was out of the "Multiple Uploader", only one of five was rejected. Worst case, a 4 and a 5 upload. BEST CASE, maybe 6 FULL "sets" of 5 images uploaded without any "burps"!!!

The images were ALL of the same type, all cactus or succulents and ALL the keywords AND descriptions were the same. The titles were the same, with the addition of a numeric added, 001 through 091, which I guess took care of the issue, usually told to us, about using identical titles, which would kick out the uploads. Since I did experience some complete multiple uploads of 5 images, I assume that the title thing isn't a thing. In the past, especially with my car stuff, ALL the titles of 6-8 images uploaded were exactly the same and doesn't seem to be the contributing factor, of artists here having issues. I was using Chrome and when I did run into failures, would log out and then try again, which seems also, to not really have a positive effect on uploading.

Other nitpicking issues, especially when adding comparable images of the same cactus, was that the thumbnails were grabbed from one of the other uploads and for a while, was chasing the right image to upload, but later determined that the thumbnail didn't mean the correct image was uploaded, so I wasted about an hour, until I figured that out. Not sure when the 3-4 thumbnails will be corrected, because, even after re-uploding the right image, the wrong thumbnail STILL appeared!

So the "purpose" of this post, is to hope that after uploading almost 100 images and explaining the good and bad stuff, SOMEBODY might be able to see how to fix this chronic issue. I've been here since 2011 and there is ALWYS an active thread about having trouble uploading images, which should be the FIRST tool that works right, all the time......jus sayin.....

So, hope this helps and if anyone has any suggestions after reading this about "factors" that might affect uploading, when I had a roll of 15 images ALL uploaded and then run into having 2-3 fail out of 5...



Sell Art Online

Rich

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Adam Jewell

5 Years Ago

It’s just the cost of doing business. If it took 100 hours (just randomly picked that number) to fix it once and for all it would save people using the site tens if not hundreds of thousands of hours in time reuploading stuff. When the cost/time of all that wasted time dealing with uploads doesn’t show up on the balance sheet for the site then it doesn’t exist.

 

Rich Franco

5 Years Ago

Adam,

WORD! My man, WORD be true....

Rich

 

Dan Turner

5 Years Ago

I've been here since 2010. I've never even tried the multiple uploader because there is always an open thread complaining that it doesn't work.

I frankly don't expect it to ever work. Not for more than 20 minutes anyway.


Dan Turner
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Uther Pendraggin

5 Years Ago

On the other hand...

Give it time, It's coming from SPACE!

Oh it really sucked, I had to wait 5 hours to upload a picture.

And then, People all around the WORLD could see it instantly!

How long would it have taken you to achieve such coverage in the past?

Longer than 5 hours, that's for sure. And the cost of that world wide distribution?

OK so nobody looks at it. That's a different issue. But if you put you picture in a magazine there's a real good chance nobody even looks at it. It's on the wrong page, they put the issue down "I'll get to it and three days later there is a different magazine laying on top of the one never gotten to. Good magazine too. Never saw it.

 

Rich Franco

5 Years Ago

Dan,

Well, I DID upload 90+ images and ALL on the multiple uploader and the purpose of my post, was to show that it does work.....sometimes. So maybe SOMEBODY could make it work, like ALL THE TIME.....

Uther,

As usual, no idea what the hell you're talking about! Are you defending the system or against the system.....???

 

Roy Erickson

5 Years Ago

I'm with Dan T - I've been here since 2009 (other account) and I've never used the multiple uploader - One at a time - then I know I've got the right image, the right description, and key words - but I've also never thought of uploading 90 images in two days.

 

Rich Franco

5 Years Ago

RD,

MAYBE that's the POINT! There are MANY artists here that NEEd to upload MANY images, but find this system, a real pain!

 

Bradford Martin

5 Years Ago

If you do one at a time you never have to worry about giving the system more than it can handle. You can only upload as fast as your upload speed. Doing more than one does not make your upload speed faster. That's why I never do it. I will open more than one tab and get the images ready to upload..But I only ever have one actually uploading.Thanks for you experiment.

 

Rich Franco

5 Years Ago

Bradford,

Urban Myth! The Multiple Uploader does WORK!!! Just not consistently! Did 15 in a row one time!!! So for those computer nuts out there, that should be some kinda indicator that something can be tweaked and fixed. HOW can software be "inconsistent"!!! SAME BROWSER, almost identical title,keywords and descriptions, which we've been told now for many years, NOT TO DO and 15 were uploaded in a row!!!???

Logging in and out, didn't seem to have any positive result in the uploading success.

Did some BIG uploads, for the first time too! 25.83mbs and then one, 26.45mbs!!! Yikes! Never had done that before, the system would opuke if close to 25 before!

Rich

 

Rich Franco

5 Years Ago

P.S. Noticed that some of the thumbnails are still wrong, what should I do?

Rich

 

Rich Franco

5 Years Ago

Brad,

Left this out. I'm running a consistent 85mbps+ now, after I increased my Internet speed, so that helps too.....

 

Jessica Jenney

5 Years Ago

Rich, it can take more than 214 hours for the thumbnails to correct themselves. Try refreshing several times or edit and submit again

 

Rich Franco

5 Years Ago

Jessica,

Sounds good, will look again in 8.9 days......LOL!

Rich

 

Uther Pendraggin

5 Years Ago

Rich,

Does it matter if I am defending it? Does it help to yell at it? I scream bloody murder at my technology. It does not care.

I can't wait until AI is invented because I am going to put down my AI computer with blistering strings of curse words that I have been twisting together for years! I won't stop until that pile of circuits is a blubbering mass on my floor!

But until then, my tech does not care.

So What I advise is, chill. Look at the bright side. It took a long time? What is a long time? In a world of instant gratification. How long ago was it that we were using dial up? How long did it take to download a Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison bootleg song? Only to have a scratchy rendition of a couple of drunks who were putrid! Now we have this speed that we have and we expect it to be even faster. We expect it to be flawless. do we even have any idea how many things have to go exactly right for this stuff to work?

And yet the benefit is amazing. When it is up, it stays up, and 24/7/365 people all around the globe can look at it!

It doesn't matter whether I'm pro the system or con the system, the system doesn't care. "I'll go somewhere else!" the system doesn't care. You will be replaced. Maybe there will be an upgrade, Maybe somebody someplace else is complaining about his place and his system does not care, it says "here comes Rich, he'll replace Joe."

Sorry. (see? I care, but I am not the system.)

 

Rich Franco

5 Years Ago

Uther,

Well, YES, it matters! Complacency is the reason we, in America, have the Government we do! You're not here to receive income, seems above you from your remarks and hidden agenda, sir. There are MANY here that ARE depending on this as income and the "machine" that provides this income, can always be improved, as all systems need. Not for the system improvements, but improvements for the artists that maintain this system.

"playing" here, for some, might be considered an insult.....

Rich

 

Rich Franco

5 Years Ago

Uploaded another bunch yesterday, 26 actually and about the same success rate, had a few 5's that went right through and then about 4-5 images that I had to upload twice. Say about a 75% success rate.

So, again, I ask how can this be? How can it sometimes work and sometimes not? I thought software, once set up will ALWAYS react the same way, ALL THE TIME?

Nobody?

Abbie, any comments

Sean......just kidding....

Rich

 

Uther Pendraggin

5 Years Ago

Hidden agenda?

Want to back that up, or do you prefer to just lash out at everyanyone who tries to offer some perspective?

Complacency, right.

You're entirely right. That's what did it. Your insight is remarkable. Analysis, world class.

I doff my hat to your superior reasoning skillz.

PLAU
UPD

 

Rich Franco

5 Years Ago

"Does it matter if I am defending it? Does it help to yell at it? I scream bloody murder at my technology. It does not care. " Gee, I don't know where I came up with complacency?

Things CAN change , if enough people ASK for that change and that was a hopeful benefit from this experiment, failed, but at least I tried, as I have since I first joined in 2011. ALL things can be improved upon and sitiing and hoping that this might occur, by hoping, doesn't seem, to work.

People that KNOW computers, might see my reuslts and see that there MIGHT be a simple fix, and uploading NEW images, which is the very foundation of this site, wouldn't be the pain that it is.

Thanks you for your compliments, I agree!

Your Humbleness,

Rich

 

Uther Pendraggin

5 Years Ago

Complacency was out of place when you ascribed it to the election.

You want to go to the mat on that? I didn't bring it up, you did.

Follow your own line of reasoning.

I'm only saying that your perspective is skewed. If you are looking to upload 5 images at an aver of 20 megs per. You're asking for 100,000,000 bytes of data to transfer. What percentage of lost packets do you suppose it takes to corrupt a file? 3%?

It's a fargin miracle it works at all. Then you consider that you're not the only one uploading. And you consider that some internet is on a different time frame from you. Then you consider things like congestion of your ISP at the critical moment.

There are a lot of moving parts. A whole lot. Sometimes you're dancing just fine other times you get your toes stepped on.

It can be frustrating. But there will always be room for improvement. And when that improvement arrives, so too will there be people who want it better. And people complaining that it isn't perfect.

Are they likely to fix the system. Yes. They are, as soon as they can.

Till then. What is here is still pretty ephing amazing.

I notice you didn't mention the hidden agenda. Good.

I will now leave you in peace.

UPD

 

Rich Franco

5 Years Ago

Perspective Sir, has its importance! I have been asking for improvements here, since 2011 and probably have been "spanked" for longer periods of time, than you've been here......

Fundamental functions here, uploading, maybe at the forefront, should work, period, all the time, not intermittently.....

Rich Assdraggin

 

Rich Franco

5 Years Ago

Okay,

Bottom line and then I'll close, if no new posts or questions.

1. Over 120 images uploaded, ALL with the "multiple Uploader" function, probably a 75 to 80% success rate.
2. In order to succesccfully upload that many, 120+, had to actually upload about 140-150, but none a third time.
3. All large files, largest 26.45 MB, most over 15mb.
4. ALL had the exact same description AND KEYWORDS, and the titles were the same, except for an additional numeric, Cactus 001,002,etc.
5. Most were uploaded within 15-20 seconds, and a few took maybe 60 seconds or so. Any that tool longer, were never uploaded, even after waiting 5
minutes.
6. Refreshing, logging out, etc., seemed to have NO affect on the success rate of the uploads.

The puropse of this "experiment" was to attempt to create a large enough "base", 100 images+, so that "somebody" might see this and the results and know where to look for the problem, that has been here before I joined in 2011. As mentioned above, I had some uploads that were 3 sets of successful uploads in a ROW, using the multiple uploader, so to me, that isn't a weak link and does work, mostly.

So, yeah, 75-80% isn't terrible, but very annoying, especially when trying to up-load MANY images during a session, and would be "nice" if fixed.

If anyone out there seems to have a suggestion or SOLUTION, please post it here or email me privately.....bigrichpho@aol.com

Will let this sit for a bit and then close out later tonight....

Rich

 

Uther Pendraggin

5 Years Ago

Good on you Rich.

Please understand that I never meant to be opposition to your quest. I was only trying to... All tech sux.

I took the phone into the water to get some picture I had been trying to get. Whatever the heck happened, it was not good!

Stuff happens.

Thank you for taking the time to try to make things better.

PLAU
UPD

 

Rich Franco

5 Years Ago

Uther,

Glad to clear that up. I have the "Usual Suspects" here that generally oppose whatever I post and was hoping that it didn't have a new member.....

I am with you on Techie stuff and only learn the bare minimum needed to say fix my VCR from blinking "12:00" all the time. Here I've suggested improvements, from the Artist's point and to my knowledge, since 2011, none have been considered. Some have gotten me "spanked", for up to 6 months as I recall.....

Here's an example of such a "tutorial" and this has been closed, I'm sure by mistake and should be a "sticky"......

https://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=2764654

Or this one about my UFO experience....

https://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=2469866

Rich

 

Uther Pendraggin

5 Years Ago

Yeah, I can see how that could get you banished.

I have seen a UFO. I loved in a region infamous for sightings. by sane sober people of upper middle class status and mouths filled with teeth.

I do, however share the "Why?" question. Why would you opt for gravity? If you were happy without it.

I also feel that the cosmic radiation in the denser part of the galaxy would have formed entirely different beings. that couldn't survive without it.

that they pulled out their best blunderbussses (a word chosen as much for it archaic character as for its onomonopia. ) was typical, but you have to learn to use the judo to diffuse those old arguments.

was it you or ed that was working on the monarch butterflies?

As far as a shooter of down. Not me. I try to be more of a bolster of up.

PLAU
UPD

 

Rich Franco

5 Years Ago

Uther,

Seems we may have more in common than not! UFO sightings, interesting! Close sightings, even more so, email me....

Radiation indeed might be important to the life and growth of different beings, but then why would that be different then H20 or just O! Might be poisonous to Uthers....

Blunderbusseses no different than our President sending our Justice System underbusses.....

Rich

 

Rich Franco

5 Years Ago

Adios mi Amigos....

Rich

 

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