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Bill OConnor

1 Month Ago

Bill Oconnor

"Beverly Hills" just downloaded over 100 pieces of my art -- what is this (they download every day). Thanks

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Jeff Folger

1 Month Ago

What do you mean downloaded?

 

Marlene Burns

1 Month Ago

Do you mean they visited your images?

 

VIVA Anderson

1 Month Ago

Me,too, Bill.........

 

Ed Taylor

1 Month Ago

He might be referring to a bolt that visits him daily. I think there is one from Beverly Hills.

 

Edward Fielding

1 Month Ago

They didn't "download" your art. All they did is give your page a "hit" or "view".

You've been on the site since 2013 - surely you've witnessed bots before?

 

Jessica Jenney

1 Month Ago

That's a very well know bot around here LOL!

 

Mike Savad

1 Month Ago

no one is downloading you. its a bot or a hub of some kind. it means google or someone visited you. they can't get your big images and the small ones are in their cache anyway.

---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Abbie Shores

1 Month Ago

They are not downloading work. They are looking at it

Beverly Hills and a couple of others are main mobile routers.

Romeo
China
Guangzhou
Sunnyvale
and several others not mentioned here are search bots.

If you know about bots you can ignore this bit.

Why do we need bots…. and why should you allow them some access to your site

A search engine is a site that allows people to put in a search term and find a site for what they are looking for.

A bot, or web crawler, is the little programme (think of a little robot made up of 0s and 1s) who runs around around the web with a thousand mates, checking out all the sites by following links. One link leads to another 5 links and those 5 links lead to another 10 links etc etc. The bots all scurry around and report back to the big programme, the search engine, what they find on the pages the links lead to.

The search engine waits, all knowing and, when someone then comes along and asks for FISH, the search engine smiles to itself and, patting a bot on the head that brought back the FISH descriptions, tells the person all the sites that are talking about fish.

That’s a bot.

 

David Bridburg

1 Month Ago

They love my artwork a great deal.

Dave

 

Nancy Raborn

1 Month Ago

Hah! Thanks for the bot explanation Abbie! Bot-friendly here.

 

Robert Frank Gabriel

1 Month Ago

Speaking of downloading any of our images...
Of course, this is easy. Take a screenshot.
Now I have (or anyone else) has your image. Now I (or anyone else) can make a decent 8x10 print.

I am surprised anyone buys our images when it's so easy to take anyone's image.

The person who steals out images can then resell them at art fairs, or put together a really nice portfolio to show to potential clients.

Please don't tell me, the pixels are not strong enough to make a print. They are strong enough with a good printer, above average inkjet paper, computer, etc.

What say you?

 

Mike Savad

1 Month Ago

the screen shot is the size of the screen, which isn't that large. many people when buying want a large print and a screen grab will look like a big blurry mess.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Robert Frank Gabriel

1 Month Ago

Tomorrow I will make an 8x10 print from a downloaded screenshot. It will be just fine for the average amateur buyer. One of my pals is a safari photographer. She posted her "watermarked" images on her website. I downloaded one of her "watermarked" images, took away the watermarks, fixed the image, and presto...a good looking pic of hers. I told her about this and she freaked. lol....

 

Mike Savad

1 Month Ago

you can make an 8x10, along with many other things. but make a 16x20 and up and it will look soft. there are plenty of thieves out there, but the ones that would normally buy, just do it. but you will lose detail from the original. like i have many images that are either 6700px up to 14,000px. and you can't duplicate the detail with a screen grab.

---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Abbie Shores

1 Month Ago

Unfortunately no site can protect work from thieves who are adamant on having an image that is on their page.

As soon as you go to a site, the image is on your computer. No right click or watermark stops that. All images go straight into a temp folder and can be grabbed from there by people who want it. That is how browsers are designed to make the browsing and speed more efficient.

I only have to make a screenshot and I have any image I want, from any site.

We do however, counter this with these options

1. We have no right click on some pages
2. We offer a watermark
3. Enlarging any thumbnails degrades the quality of the image terribly so it is useless for a print. Remember if they want the image for a phone wallpaper etc there is NOTHING we can do to stop that, even phones have screenshot takers
4. Your full resolution image is hidden away so people only see the low resolution copy
5. On the full resolution preview on the main image pages, it only shows a small section and a border is actually removed. That way, even if people took the time to open all the full resolution image and copied each segment to stitch together, they would not get the complete image.

The low resolution thumbnails and preview images are as safe as we can make them, your full images are not on the site

You need to look on the site which is stealing the work and find a contact link. Then you need to file a DMCA notice (Digital Millennium Copyright Act)

Unfortunately these need to be sent in by the artist themselves to the site stealing them or to the server host of that site.

You can also find that here http://www.whois.com/

 

Floyd Snyder

1 Month Ago

"Tomorrow I will make an 8x10 print from a downloaded screenshot."

You don't need to even do a screenshot. You can just place the thumbnails into your PhotoShop, remove the watermark, run it through a painterly or gigapixels program and print them out 24 x 36, no problem.

I have demonstrated that here a dozen times.

The bottom line is there is nothing you can do to protect your images except not load them to the Internet anywhere.



 

Edward Fielding

1 Month Ago

At least we know who not to invite over for a friendly poker game.

 

David Bridburg

1 Month Ago

......or register your images with the USCO......so that if there is an actual major economic value one day, you will have lawyers lining up to work on your case.

Dave

 

Susan Maxwell Schmidt

1 Month Ago

Or scan that 8 x 10 print, then you can make it huge. There's nothing new here, especially the fact that the kind of people who do this were never going to buy your art anyway. The ones who try to resell it can be shut down (when the attempt is made on a real site like Amazon), or generally operate seedy sites without much business (and usually just exist to run ad scams anyway). We all have to deal the lack of internet civility, it's pervasive. As the saying goes, if you can't stand the mirrors stay out of the funhouse... or sumthin' like that.


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Mike Savad

1 Month Ago

or they can buy it full size as paper, have it scanned in, then send it back and repeat. there are lots of ways.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

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