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Hend Elsalahy

21 Days Ago

Getting A New Screen Calibrator ... Any Help?

Hello everyone


It's been a long time since I have logged in last time as I was busy with my family the past months .... I didn't have enough time to take care of my photography issues 😅!!

During that time I researched different screen calibrators to know which is the best... but after a long loooong research I'm still not sure which one is the most suitable for me.... I need an accurate one to help me make sure that the color tones I see on screen will be the same in my prints....

I'm concerning to get the X-Rite i 1display but I still don't know if it will be difficult for me to use it as it's more complicated than the others and I'm getting a calibrator for the first time ... and of course it's very expensive ... But I found out that the other ones from datacolor are not that good like the X-Rite products ..... And the color munki has the same hardware as that of the i1display but the software is worse ....

If you've got a calibrator and can tell me if I'm right in what I concluded from my research or you have any advice I will be so grateful for your help.... I really need to take that buying decision quickly to start uploading my photos here !! :)

And as you are in the same field like me it will be an honor if you gave me your feedback on my work on instagram @hend.samy.photography
An of course if you follow I will be glad.... :)

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Mike Savad

20 Days Ago

i broke down and got the i1 display pro

you MUST NOT have displayCal and their software in at the same time. or their software doesn't work. but you can use display cal,but their software works better.

however it can also adjust your screen by resetting the controls first then adjusting it, which is sort of ok the first time provided you don't mind it erasing all your other settings. like the other calibrators, it wants to make your screen dark and bluer, i think to mimic paper. i like it a little bit brighter though. and i like it set to native white, so i leave it there. the software - even though you can save your settings, it doesn't default to them so you have to load it every time.

i've had a spyder 3 for a very long time, and it worked, but not for windows 10, they don't support that. and there is a newer version, but i always hated their software. every review, always leaned toward the xrite, which is why i spent the extra on it. supposedly it could even do my phone which i haven't found the app yet.

i have 2 screens, one LED one florescent tube based that has a reddish cast. though it didn't remove all of the cast, its so much closer than the old spyder could ever do. and its super fast.

using display cal first, my spyder3 took an hour and change for one test. thing thing took a few minutes. display cal has more comprehensive tests, but the 4000 color test takes like 3 hours and no way will i do that.

some thing its not needed, but i think it is, its peace of mind knowing my colors should be in the ball park. i haven't recalibrated yet, it should be just as fast. but i did remember trying to figure out the software and ended up doing it about 20 or more times on the screen, before deciding the leaving it on the NATIVE white settings. otherwise it comes out blue. and leave it on NATIVE brightness if you like what you have now. my old screen could only go up to 80, but the software was at 120 -- and it crashed. and when i spoke to them, their only solution was to set the number lower - not to fix the bug.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Hend Elsalahy

8 Days Ago

Thanks a lot for your help

I don't know why I didn't have a notification on my e-mail that you've replied to my message though I have the box ticked! I've just seen you're reply now when I logged in

So you think that the i-display is better than the spyder as it's software is better right?

I have a MacBook pro and I didn't make an update because when I tried it once there was a problem with photoshop and lightroom so I got back to the old version again

There was a review on Amazon on the page of the i display product that made me hesitant about it

Here's the link

https://www.amazon.com/X-Rite-EODIS3-i1Display-Pro/dp/B0055MBQOW/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=xrite+i1+display+calibrator&qid=1565725349&s=gateway&sr=8-3

It's the first review written by Prasand J. on January 30, 2019

 

Mike Savad

8 Days Ago

i don't have the new spyder, so it might be good. all i do know is i have 2 screens that never matched. one was always way too pink. and while there is still cast, its like barely there and now they more or less match with the idisplay.

be sure your using gmail, anything else may get cut.

that review is way too long and i'm not reading that. and i don't have a mac. all i know is that the program won't work unless you remove display cal, if you were using it. and probably any other kind of calibrator. seems fickle like that.

i chose this one this time around because almost every single review - reviewed that one. not spyder. even though it was more money, technically i think it was less because this one does more than 1 screen. and spyder you need the more expensive version, which i thought was a ripoff.

its hard to compare software because i didn't have the latest versions of spyder, just an old copy about 10 years old. i do know the idisplay is very fast.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Hend Elsalahy

7 Days Ago

Thanks a lot for your reply

Yes the review is too long and very technical and I didn't understand almost of it !!

Sorry I have no experience in the use of calibrators

What's the display cal? Is that something built in for calibration by the screen itself ?

 

Mike Savad

7 Days Ago

displaycal is a freeware calibrator, you still need a calibration tool to use it. it has a more comprehensive test than the other two tools has. you can get an accurate calibration with it. but it doesn't play nice with iDisplay, so i had to remove it. it does work better than the spyder software and they seem to play nice together.

https://displaycal.net/

----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Doug Swanson

7 Days Ago

I've troubled with screen adjustments, but decided to take a simple, pragmatic course. If you take a given image and view it on 10 screens, they will all be different, not to mention printers. Truth is always elusive, especially with images, colors, brightness, etc., so you never know which one is "right". In the case of prints from FAA, I bought a couple then did a custom set of adjustments to my Mac screen so it looks like the prints. So, if it's an image I'm going to post, I use that screen setting, with charger plugged in (brightness changes with battery use) and use that as my benchmark. It avoided a lot of the science of screens. I have another custom profile for my own printer and I don't worry about coffee mugs.

 

Hend Elsalahy

4 Days Ago

Thanks a lot Mike for the clarification

 

Hend Elsalahy

4 Days Ago

That's interesting Doug .... I think it's a difficult method right? Should I be experienced in the technical part of how the screen display the color tones to do so? Once I read about doing such things in a wrong way causing problems ....

 

Hend Elsalahy

4 Days Ago

The second part .... After getting a calibrator ... How do you friends get the printing paper profiles? Who should I contact here to get such information?

And don't forget if you have some time to give me your feedback on my work on instagram @hend.samy.photography I'll be thankful :)

And happy shooting for you all .... !!

 

Mike Savad

4 Days Ago

i don't usually worry about those profiles. if its sent to the printer they may use a certain standard and you can calibrate for that. on this site, you can't do it by paper because we use so many of them, and so many different printers. as long as you set it to an sRGB or aRGB standard you should be fine. i prefer sRGB because that's what the world uses. i have no plans on looking through instagram, would rather see it here.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

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