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Lisa Crawford

2 Months Ago

No Sales But Over 2600+ Views. Theft?

Hi all, I have 750 images in my collection. (Adding more as I go) In the year that I've been on FAA I haven't sold anything, yet I have had over 2600 visitors. I know its possible to download the image for free (thanks to my 'friend' proudly showing it on her FB page) 1. How do I stop/prevent illegal downloads? 2. Any advise on generating sales appreciated. I will start posting to my FB and Instagram account. Is it worth getting Pinterest account too? 3. Appreciate any feedback on my collection, ie better arrangement, different look. I do enter contests and have gotten many of my photos featured in various groups. My page is basically travel, animal, and landscape photos and I'm more of a hobbyist rather then trying to make a living, so not really interested in huge marketing campaigns.

Thanks! Lisa

**EDIT** After reading all the comments, and researching bots, I agree that most of my views are bots and not actual people. I didn't have much reason to believe they were being downloaded except I saw my photo on one of my 'friends' FB page and I saw so many views but no sales. I went through and cleaned out the photos that were of lower quality and am now putting watermarks on my blog photos. I hear those of you saying to just make them smaller, but I think they add to the blog and one of these days I will monetize it, so I want it to look as good as possible. Now comes the tedious process of reworking the tags and collections on my FAA photos. I really appreciate people taking the time to look at my page and give me feedback! What a great community!

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Rick Berk

2 Months Ago

You can't stop people from taking screen shots. You can enable the watermark if you like, but there are stats saying the watermark hurts sales. I wouldn't worry about it. Can't print much from a screenshot and anyone who would steal the screenshot and try to print it, isn't your customer anyway.

Honestly, 2600 views isn't that much. Some people here get that much in a day, or at least a week. You need to share your work everywhere you can. Facebook (get a separate business page), Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest, Blog, etc. Get your images out into the wild, with links.

Also, look at your keywords and descriptions. For instance, on this one, while you say what species it is in the description, I don't see that or the word "monkey" in the keywords. Possible they are hidden as not all keywords are displayed, but you want to be sure it's in there.

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Be a bit more wordy with your descriptions. Tell a story about the image. How did you make it? Where were you? Anything interesting happen while you were taking the shot? At the very least, answer the Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How questions with your descriptions.


There are several threads around about how to market. Be sure to check those out.

 

David Smith

2 Months Ago

Besides what Rick wrote.

My advice.

Edit tighter.

You have way too many similar images.

I gave up after the first two pages.

 

Lisa Crawford

2 Months Ago

Rick, good points, thanks! Monkey is in the keywords, but its in alphabetical order. Does it matter where the keywords are? Should I list them in order of importance? I agree that most of my descriptions could be more, well, descriptive.

David, I do have problems choosing which of several images I should keep, definitely something to work on!

 

Mike Savad

2 Months Ago

2600views is very small for that amount of images. it means people looked at each image twice.

you can't assume people are stealing things, and that isn't affecting sales nor can you stop it entirely.

if you haven't been advertising - start. every site.

you only have 8 collections and some look rather mixed. don't have just landscapes, if you have more of one place than another make its own collection.

Sell Art Online
you have many repeating images, same thing 10 views, each looks like a snap shot, because lighting looks flat in all of them. how the photo is made and how it looks is more important than the subject some times.

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this is a nice picture but there is no light in the trees. its dull. and because of that it won't attract the eye. the title is about the red tree, but the tree is dull. you have a lot of words about gardening, but there is no garden, there is a forest. and you can add things like travel, vacation, the type of bridge, relaxing, contemplation etc.

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only send your best. you have at least 4 of this light house, with very little difference between them. why does the keywords say denmark, but the location scottland? you also mention england, but last i checked they are near by but they are apart. you can tell by the accent and kilt. british thankfully don't casually play the bagpipes. the first word should be light house and yet it wasn't mention in that list.

tell us about the lighthouse, some history in the description.

Photography Prints
water should always be straight, drives a lot of people nuts

never have an OTHER category. figure out a better location. how many mixed boxes of stuff at a store would you go through?

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if this were mine i'd add a beam of light from that blind spot on the top. otherwise its a good shot. this one catches the eye, the others, not as much

instead of repeating images in many folders, make them into countries - all of italy, all of japan etc and keep it like that. show people you travel, and not just collect images.

that other folder - you have that same batch of red arches in at least 3 folders. considering you already labeled it under architecture, there is no reason at all to toss it into other as well. by breaking things up into countries you can dump all the stuff into the OTHER folder, and put it into the countries.

in the end you have to ask who your making things for, is there something in there that reminds people of home? tells a story? the images are nice, but they don't really pull me into the scene. they don't tell a story. its a boat... but where is it? is there a mountain or something near by to tell people this is home?

remove the links from the about page. they lead people out, and when gone, they ain't coming back. further, just tell people what you photograph, where you've been etc. that looks more like an ad for the blogs. you could sell things from the blog by the way.

beyond that you have advertise daily.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Mike Savad

2 Months Ago

as for your blog

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2SsTUCx5xLM/XXqYQ2SDkJI/AAAAAAAAxCs/9rhLlY_YfsYrxWpYrh5brFyqp-GmeJIPgCKgBGAsYHg/s1600/DSCN2774.jpg
the images are twice the size posted here. 1,600px × 1,200px i can make a 16" print from that. so you might want to secure that end first. and each of those images should link back to this site, not just an image.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Mike Savad

2 Months Ago

keywords are best listed in priority order. usually the first 10 are the most important, according to sources. but people are curious too. so its monkey, type of monkey, genus of creature, animal, mammal etc and so on.

a part of being an artist is choosing which one looks best if any. when your there you try it in different views and orientations. different times of day and weather if you can. then choose the best of that batch, the ones that can't be shot just by anyone who is there. like not under the arch, but down the hill zoomed in with morning light. or with people in kimono's, if you should be so lucky, or any human life. that's how you stand out. and there is nothing wrong with editing these to refine the look.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Lisa Crawford

2 Months Ago

Great tips Mike thanks! I guess I should revamp what I already have instead of uploading more.

 

Mike Savad

2 Months Ago

yep first fix the store. break it up into countries since that is your theme. don't have misc folders like landscapes etc unless they are strictly that. animals is fine. don't have featured collections. the buyer knows nothing about groups, and they vanish and it makes little sense to put them there. choose one or two of each animal. don't crop their heads off. if that's the only view, don't post it.

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kick the contrast up a bit, and use this or that meercat head as the button. these types of animals should catch attention in places. same with a few of the pandas.

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ask yourself - can i do better than this? is that branch, grass etc in the way too much? does the background take over and that's all i really see?

Photography Prints
don't include the phony background with a corner. either clone the line out or find a better version. animals should never look like they came from a zoo.

if you make a japan folder, add the steam bath monkey's, and so on. give us the flavor. that's where repeating images comes in.
make the site easy to go through. those blog posts - the paragraphs you add there, should be your descriptions here.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Edward Fielding

2 Months Ago

The problem isn't theft. The problem is only 2600 visitors - such a small number means they are probably robots.

In order to stand out among the 100,000+ other sellers plus everyone and their brother trying to sell art online, you need to have stand out images that people want to buy and market them so that potential buyers see them.

What makes your work stand out? What are you offering that is unique?

 

Joseph C Hinson

2 Months Ago

If you're really worried someone is stealing your images, do a Reverse Google image search. thefts don't hurt sales though as anyone stealing an image was never going to buy it anyway. And it takes just one view per image for someone to screen shot it.

 

Mike Savad

2 Months Ago

if people are taking anything they are stealing it from her blog, the images are twice the size as this site. maybe larger, i only looked at a few.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Joy McKenzie

2 Months Ago

Good sleuthing, Mike!

 

Mike Savad

2 Months Ago

my keyword is - people are stealing my work from THIS site. it almost never is.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Edward Fielding

2 Months Ago

What are the traffic numbers on the blog?

 

Lisa,

Here's a good group to join to get some folks of like interests networking with you. https://fineartamerica.com/groups/self-promotion-skills-for-artists.html

Getting involved with others is a good jumping off point to lead to more eyes seeing and sharing your work.

This is beautiful BTW

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Hope to see you there,

Glenn

https://glenn-mccarthy.pixels.com/

 

Lisa Crawford

2 Months Ago

Thanks for all the input everyone! Yea, I guess I'll go back and watermark the blog photos, never thought about them being so easy to grab! I'll definitely do more networking. The blog traffic is almost 20k.

 

Mike Savad

2 Months Ago

forget about watermarks either make them smaller or have them link to the picture you want to sell. tell people in the blog that you sell the items. its more work this way but at least it goes here. watermarks can be removed easily. there is even software that can recognize the missing parts or the whiter parts and fill it in proper like.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Bradford Martin

2 Months Ago

I just took a quick look at your portfolio. Nice work that should sell. But you are not doing it right. If you are relying on the site search to get views you need to have more tags.

For example in the photo of Manrola, I taly you do not have Monrola or Italy in the keywords section (tags). I know it has been said already but I would start by going over each file and tag it in detail, including the location of every landscape or architectual shot and the species name of animals, etc. Do a little research on each subject. That will help improve the description and bring to iht missing keywords. When that is done then move onto marketing offsite.

Here is my checklist of things to do. If you need more help search the forums on any topic. There is a wealth of information her. Good luck and I am sure you will have sales with a bit more effort.
https://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=4721562

 

RD Erickson

2 Months Ago

While researching, using google and wikipedia - don't slavishly copy what you see. It's useful, but some search engines will reject it because it's not "original' content.

 

Abbie Shores

2 Months Ago

Don't only watermark the blog images. Make them much smaller!

 

Floyd Snyder

2 Months Ago

I personally think you may be overreacting to the idea of people maybe stealing you images especially from your FAA presence.

Maybe as many as 70-80% of your views are bots, not people and they do not steal images.

Watermarks are not going to help you. Forget the watermarks and only upload very small images to your blogs.

Worry more about selling by advertising your images outside of FAA and less about people lifting a small resolution image when there is little if anything you can do about it.

Selling Guides for New Members AKA: my lecture series -by Floyd Snyder

The 25-75 Rule For New Members
Advertising Your Artist Website
Another Response To A New Member Seeking Help
A Few Reasons Why You May Not Be Selling
Work Smarter Not Harder To Beat The Big Guys
50 Effective Tips to Help You Sell You Art


 

Carla Parris

2 Months Ago

Hi, Lisa. I took quick look at your site and your blog. You have some lovely vibrant images!

I did want to pass along the observation that I found the font on your blog a little difficult to read. I like funky fonts, but readability is important. You might see if others have the same perception as me. Just sharing my thoughts since you obviously put lots of effort into your blog and want to maximize your readers' experience.

Wishing you all the best!

 

Lisa Crawford

2 Months Ago

Thanks Carla, Yea, I do get some feedback on the fonts, but its all over the place. Too big, too small... I just went with middle of the road.

Floyd, Thanks for the links, I'll check them out.

Bradford, I am now in the process of reviewing my tags and putting more detail in the description box, thanks for the input!

 

New to FAA and this discussion.

Isn't it possible for FAA to disable any actions for the right mouse button, thereby, preventing downloads? My personal website allows this.

 

Toby McGuire

10 Days Ago

FAA does disable right click on the main image pages.

Disabling right click doesn't really protect your images as someone can either screen grab the page or disable javascript in their browser to make the right click work again. Someone could also work out the direct link to the image if they view the page source code. Also, as soon as someone visits your page there is a copy of the image sitting in their browser cache. People can only download the 900px preview images though, not the full res images. You can watermark images too but they are extremely easy to remove in most cases.

If you put your images online there's nothing you can do to stop anyone from taking the image previews (on any site). But like I said, it only shows a low res version.

 

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