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Jenny Rainbow

17 Days Ago

Selling On Instagram

Hello all!
Lately I was making a research in matter to sell on Instagram. Its possible to do directly or through 3rd party (for example - Eswid - https://support.ecwid.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000629245-Selling-on-Instagram-).
Im still in a process of research, probably its not for me for long time as previously its was required to have 10 000 + followers to enable this sales feature.
Not sure if through 3rd party is not an essential requirement. As I said Im still in a process of research.
Powerful hashtags makes Instagram very much attractive for sellers, much more than Facebook and other social nets.
Does anybody have already experience with selling on Instagram and if yes, is it possible to incorporate in with FAA?
As I know for selling now you need to create the listings specially - with picture, description and payment through Shopify (?) where Instagram/ Facebook able to charge the commission. So in this case seems impossible to incorporate the prints/ products from FAA.
Or Im wrong and missing some important point?
Is possible to have such incorporation for future maybe?
Because it seems to be very fascinating way to reach target public. I love very much that point that hashtags bring to your account the people who is not in your contact at all!
Share, please your experience and thoughts about it

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Jason Fink

17 Days Ago

I'd be interested to hear some ideas as well. I try to make sure my website is watermarked on the image. And I don't bother putting the full link to the image in the description. I just put FinkoPhotos.com in the description, which is something they can actually remember without having to copy/paste. I don't use IG very much for this reason. Find it very difficult to get followers on that platform.

 

Abbie Shores

17 Days Ago

Pixels has a Shopify app where all work for sale here can be easily incorporated into Shopify. Shopify is obviously advertised on Facebook

So it's probably easier to be found on Instagram as they intermingle the two media's more and more

I've never heard of this one you're sharing here

 

Jenny Rainbow

17 Days Ago

#Jason I also have very few followers for now on Instagram - 300 something, Im not consistent there. But what Im amazed with its how the unknown people can easily reach your account by smart hashtags. The one point what hold me back from instagram that only one link possible in intro. So feature to sell is definitely attractive but should understand how to set all this process.

#Abbie I will check this possibility with Shopify / FAA
I know that some print sites (like Prinful) easily incorporating Shopify/ Amazon and when the buyer purchasing the item its automatically going to the print site for further processing with printing/ delivery.
The mentioned Eswid I found just today and now learning how possible to unite all the process. Still its not clear for me at all

 

Deborah League

17 Days Ago

Where would I find information about using the Pixels/Shopify App to incorporate my artwork on Pixels into shopify please.

 

Jenny Rainbow

17 Days Ago

I've got on my FB feed some discussion about Shopify about selling on Instagram - just laughing how they already tracing my steps!!!
But these small conversation gave me another point to think about:

"VS: I have been in Shopify for 5 months and I have never been able to use the instagram shooping, they denied me but they have never told me why, I have written them about 100 times. I fill all the requirements. Please help
Shopify: Hi, V! Sorry to hear that you're having trouble with the Instagram approval process.
Because Instagram manages its own approvals and rejections to use their shopping feature we don't have influence in their decision.
We have a list of requirements from Instagram and Facebook in order to use their shopping features (http://bit.ly/2LqE5kp). Additionally, Facebook's merchant agreement (http://bit.ly/2N7xNIF) and commerce policy (http://bit.ly/32yYY2B) are two more important key areas that need thorough review.
You can try to reach Instagram again, but at this time we've not been given an appeal process to forward to our merchants."

Another one:
M: I’m having the same exact issue! I get denied for product tagging by Instagram every time. I’ve read over and over the rules and everything should be correct but I still get rejected. I’ve emailed Instagram many times with no response. Very frustrating!
L: I have the same problem. I could tag products and then out of the blue I no longer can and tags fell off previous IG posts too. Shopify, FB and IG all blame each other and I’m going to move away from Shopify as a result.
K: it's an instagram issue NOT shopify
J: Yeah, good luck with that. None of my 600 handmade jewelry pieces I've been selling on Etsy for 9 years were approved for Shopify's Instagram sales channel. Odd. I hear the exact same complaint in groups everywhere on fb.
I understand that even though it's Shopify's Sales Channel, that it's Instagram's decision. However, with the mountain of complaints of the same exact nature I see everywhere, you would *think* Shopify would look into it or drop this supposed "sales channel". Ridiculous.
___________________

So you need still go through approval process by Instagram and not obvious that you can be accepted! And than even can be more troubles
Maybe its not that great idea as I realized before..
Is here anyone who could give some positive feedback by using Instagram/ Shopify?

 

Mark Tisdale

16 Days Ago

Jenny - there was another thread here not long ago mentioning Instagram/Shopify. I can't remember the topic or I'd link to it. I remember it because Mathias said he had gotten approved for Instagram no problem. Me, I still haven't been. It's not high on my list of concerns. I like Shopify. My choice to use it had nothing to do with Instagram, but it would have been nice.

Instagram/Facebook are basically black holes for getting explanations for anything support wise. I've very rarely gotten responses back from Facebook support. I've never even tried to get support with Instagram honestly. I mainly post on there because I find the platform sort of interesting. If there's business benefit to it, it's just a bonus.

Mark

PS Deborah - look in the site footer under "Sellers" heading, there's a link to the Pixels Shopify app with explanations for it.

 

Abbie Shores

16 Days Ago

Deborah

It's very easy

Log into Shopify and find the PIXELS app
Add
Log into pixels through the app
Add work :-)

It's just the shipping that's difficult for some people. We do have an app for that too but you have to pay extra

 

Deborah League

16 Days Ago

Thank you Abbie for the information. I set up a Shopify store, added the Pixels app and now I'm ready to add work. But, before I do a questions. You say it's the shipping that's difficult for some people and there's an app, but I have to pay extra. When I installed the Pixels app, I don't see any options, only the following information:

When you receive an order through Shopify, we're going to fulfill the order for you. When we fulfill the order, our system will bill your credit card for the cost of goods plus shipping. You'll receive money from Shopify when you make the sale (e.g. $25), and you'll pay us a smaller amount (e.g. $18) for fulfilling the order. Your profit is the difference (e.g. $25 - $18 = $7).

So, before I add products to the Shopify store, is this arrangement the same as what we have now as a Pixels customer, or is there an additional cost please? By same arrangement I mean, if I have all the same prices at Shopify as at Pixels, do I still make the same amount for a sale at Shopify as I do if a sale is made through Pixels?

 

Abbie Shores

16 Days Ago

If you have the same amount per image, yes.

Let me get home and I'll give you more information, but Mario had a thread a month or two ago if you can find it and I put lots of info there for him

 

Deborah League

16 Days Ago

Ok, great, I will appreciate you help.

I listed one image. Some of the prices are the same Shopify/Pixels, but some are not.

An example is the smallest size metal print. On Shopify it is offered for $31.71, but on Pixels the same thing costs $69. My markup is $15, so both of us are losing money on that one.

Another example, coffee mug on Pixels $14, on Shopify $9. My markup is the suggested $2.00 so I'm not even sure where the $14 on Pixels comes from?

Same image greeting card is $4.95, which is the same for both sites.

I don't think my Shopify site is live yet because I saw something about removing the password protection so others can see it, so not a fire drill, but I would like to get things set up properly.

 

Mark Tisdale

16 Days Ago

Deborah - the base prices on Shopify are less. You can manually change the prices on Shopify if you want them to match (that's what I do and I know some others do as well). I don't want to sell the same item for less on Shopify regardless of what the base price here is.

FAA adds your mark-up to the lower base price, that's why the prices don't match but hypothetically you're making the same... I say hypothetically because you have fees taken out of sales on Shopify for payment processing, etc. So you're really making less... I still wish the Pixels app had an option to not lower our asking price when the product is pulled in...

PS Shipping is a whole other ball of wax. I'm using the Advanced shipping rules app. Another member posted that he was able to get the FAA/Pixels version to work. I'll see if I can find that post.

 

Mark Tisdale

16 Days Ago

Deborah - here's the post where Mario mentions that he got the Pixels calculated shipping to work without paying more - he is paying for a full year in advance but so did I.

https://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=4814151&targetid=4816665#4816665

But he's not paying the extra $9 a month for the Advanced Shipping Rules App which was the one that was recommended to me by the previous support person (Abbie supports Shopify now). It's not worth it to me to change. I feel like I'm taking a card out of the bottom of a house of cards and I'd rather not. LOL

 

Deborah League

16 Days Ago

What's the shipping issue? I thought it was the same setup as Pixels, where FAA handles everything and it's zero to me?

 

Mark Tisdale

16 Days Ago

Deborah - Calculating the COST of shipping is the issue. FAA still ships it, but it's not straightforward how that cost is calculated so that you can pass it on to the customer.

Explained in some detail here - although I think some of it is confusing.

https://fineartamerica.com/landing/calculating-shipping-charges-using-the-pixels-shopify-app.html

The gist of it is that you can go about it a few ways. You can try to figure out what cost would generally cover shipping and either roll it into the product cost or set that up in a shipping table on Shopify.

Or you can use one of the Apps - see the thread I linked to above about Mario's way which apparently uses an App Pixels has set up and I already mentioned the app I'm using up above.

 

Mark Tisdale

16 Days Ago

Deborah,

It might help to understand the order process.

Customer A visits your shop.

They find something they like a place an order.

You get an email from Shopify that you have an order, you log in and see the order and open it and click the button to 'request fulfillment' or some such wording.

Pixels/FAA later picks up that order and places it as if you bought it but with a shipping address for your customer.

Pixels charges your card the cost of the product and shipping.

But if you don't have some method to add the cost of shipping then the customer would only have paid for the product itself. The apps communicate shipping back to Shopify. Or as said, you can try to guestimate the cost yourself and add it in. I looked at trying the latter but even for a handful of products it becomes very complicated.

 

Glen Carpenter

15 Days Ago

I have a (hopefully) very basic question about Instagram. Regarding your profile there, where you add your website, is their some kind of rule banning a link to FAA?
I’ve got a couple thousand followers and was hoping to drive some business here, but my link to FAA (or Pixels) breaks within a few hours of adding it. This is a daily occurrence, so I’m wondering if I’m breaking an Instagram rule by adding FAA as my website. I’ve Googled this to death and can’t find and answer.

 

Barbara Szlanic

12 Days Ago

Who is selling greeting cards onFAA???
Barbara Szlanic

 

Jennifer White

12 Days Ago

Glen - I use Link Tree for my instagram and twitter pages. It's a cool free website where when it's clicked, a list of all your websites shows up and the shopper can pick the link they want. For example, it has my main website, FAA and some others.

I'm interested in learning more about selling on instagram and shopify so following.

 

Deborah League

12 Days Ago

I have been looking at Shopify and Redbubble over the past few days. Question for those using these sites - How do you account for sales tax? Do the sites collect and report for you, or do you somehow know and collect/remit this tax for each state?

 

Matthias Hauser

10 Days Ago

Hi Jenny, how is it going? Hope you are doing fine :-)

As Mark wrote, I have been approved by IG some time ago. I did nothing special, just made sure I had all my ducks in a row: https://help.shopify.com/en/manual/sell-online/instagram/requirements

Unfortunately, I had no sales via Instagram so far. I had posts with many views (>2000) and comments. One video even was in the top posts for the #fractal hashtag for more than one day.

On average I had about one to three product views per post and even fewer product button clicks (they open a shopping cart).

The main problem with IG: there is only one link (in the bio). I use a similar solution as Jennifer but few people do visit the profile and very few do click the link in the profile.

I had given up on IG and focused on Pinterest (and a little bit Facebook and Twitter) but I will try again soon.

There are some artists here that do much better on IG (without even using their shop) like Dora with her cat paintings.

Hope this helps.

 

Jenny Rainbow

7 Days Ago

Hi Matthias, sorry for delay with answer, have not been much around.
I know that you have experience with Shopify, so probably for you all clear on this field ))
Im still in doubts if I want to go deep with this. Small amount of followers on Instagram also holding me back with watsting monthly payment.
From all of this I just love actually only one point that on Instagram possible to reach the people which is not your followers at all just only by hashtag.

P.S. Honestly is my second tsunami wave of disappointment in marketing affords which is not related to increasing sales as results. Too much time which is not paying off.
For Pinterest the same. Im just trying to have consistency on FB page, but more for complacency that Im doing at least something and keep me on surface of social media . Also automatic Twitter with new uploads, as the automatic Pinterest.
I have to declare my fatal fail on marketing field in new reality after 8 years and with 7700 + images on FAA. Will stay with uploading my huge volume of images in all art sites and lets volume/ keywords/ description work for me automatically. Thats all. Enough is enough. Really no time to create or what soever. It exhausted me completely.
So no more interest for the marketing and all the tricks.

 

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