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Robert Beers

16 Days Ago

New To This

I am a long experienced artist. I have done cartooning, illustration including books, children's picture books and book covers. Also commercial art, but my love is painting. My non-love is marketing. I think gut-wrenching disgust is not too far off. This sort of site is, of course ideal.

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Joe Burgess

16 Days Ago

Welcome, Robert
Sounds like you'll fit right in...

 

David Smith

16 Days Ago

Hi Robert

Before you even start to worry about marketing you need to have all the images you put up here reshot.

They're all soft, have camera shake or are off color.

 

Mike Savad

16 Days Ago

before your start marketing, you may want to scan your work in, some of it is out focus or noisy. they may not print it like that. also be sure to add a lot more keywords, can't be stingy, they find you that way. and do not enlarge your images, if it looks blurred because they are larger, they won't print. like those koi fish are way too large, they look about 2-3 times the size.

Photography Prints
like something like this would never print because its not at all clear. i know its a bummer to find out when your new, but i like to tell people early on. because if it does sell, you have a short window to repair it or you lose the sale.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Abbie Shores

16 Days Ago

Hello

Welcome :-) 99% of us will agree with your opening marketing statement

Unfortunately, uploading images on Fine Art America is half of the work. The other half is marketing. Fine Art America is a platform for artists and photographers to run their own businesses. The artists that are successful on FAA do outside marketing to promote their work and we offer a handful of different marketing tools to help you e.g. Shopping Cart Widget, Email Campaign, etc. So I would definitely take a look at these features (found 'Behind the Scenes') to help get some sort of marketing plan in action.

Being an active member on Fine Art America is also a plus - we have a very large community of artists and photographers. 'Favouriting' images, leaving comments, participating in discussion forums, etc., are big ways to get your work noticed! I would also look into uploading more images.

We have over 7 million images listed on Fine Art America, so if there is no marketing and promotion done on your end, your images will get lost in the mix. If you follow all of these suggestions you will appear higher and more often in the search engine.

We cannot tell why some sell and why some do not so we cannot give that kind of advice. However, here are some great posts on the forum and elsewhere about marketing your work. Please log in to view some of them

https://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=4702720

If you sell an image we will refuse to print if the image shows.......

Pixellation
Blockiness
Bad cropping
Blurriness not in keeping with the image (ie not meant to be there)
normal font signature (Arial, Times New Roman etc)
signature cropped half off the image
large watermarks
noticeable camera flash
Upsized images

We do not do quality control until you sell so, it is your responsibility to quality control your images carefully before uploading. You do this by zooming in a photo editor to 100% and then carefully going over the image, checking for the above defects

Read this thread for original art copying techniques https://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=2764654

Abbie
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Artists Community and Technical Support Manager | Shopify/Pixels Representative
"When nothing is going right, go left."

 

Mike Savad

15 Days Ago

your goal is to get all the images to have the same quality as this one:

Art Prints
this is clear enough to see the canvas. whatever you did to capture this image, do the same for the rest.

Photography Prints
this is also ok, but you have to fix the cropping at the top and side. can't have the edges show.

the rest though need work of some kind.

----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Floyd Snyder

15 Days Ago

Welcome aboard Robert and best of luck to you!

"My non-love is marketing. I think gut-wrenching disgust is not too far off. This sort of site is, of course, ideal."

I may be reading more into this than what you are thinking so please forgive me if I am wrong. But if your thinking is that this site is ideal for you because you hate marketing and you are thinking this site is going to do the marketing for you, you may be in for a disappointment.

However, that said, you can sell art here if you can just grit your teeth and do a bit of marketing.

Here is some reading you might find helpful... especially if you have had trouble falling asleep at night.

Selling Guides for New Members AKA: my lecture series -by Floyd Snyder
The 25-75 Rule For New Members
Advertising Your Artist Website
Another Response To A New Member Seeking Help
A Few Reasons Why You May Not Be Selling
Work Smarter Not Harder To Beat The Big Guys
50 Effective Tips to Help You Sell You Art

 

Robert Beers

15 Days Ago

I appreciate the comments, and I do take them as advice. Most of the uploaded images were taken with a phone or a sub-par camera. I was given a nice Canon recently. Is there some advice on how to properly take the photos? Bear in mind, I am not a photographer. I never was.

 

Robert Beers

15 Days Ago

Floyd, I do not think the site will market for me. That being said, I literally hate the selling bit. That's something I need to work on.

 

Mike Savad

15 Days Ago

there is a guide floating around, abbie has one. taking it outside works well, make sure the camera is lined up with the image, you'll have to edit it later on anyway. and shoot the picture. overcast light will make the light even, though it may cool colors.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Robert Beers

15 Days Ago

Thanks Mike. I appreciate that. A tripod came with the camera, but as we are in the midwest, it looks like I'll be mounting lights into the basement ceiling to make a shooting area. Taking photos in a minus windchill doesn't appeal for some reason.

 

Mike Savad

15 Days Ago

a tripod helps, but if your outside and your shutterspeed is high enough, you shouldn't need one. it would make it easier to align with the painting. inside you would have to set up a table, i'd set it up with sheets on either side and a steady light lighting it from outside the sheets. i like 5000k, its a good white light.

https://www.diyphotography.net/how-to-make-a-diy-softbox-for-almost-0/ here's a cheap one.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5f/aa/2d/5faa2dd317e0a0c269bb2f43a79daa63.jpg another version.

you'll want light on both sides just to make sure you don't have light fall off. set the camera to iso 100, align it with the painting, it would have to be vertical for this, try not to tilt it so you don't have reflection and shoot it. that's how i would do it, though a scanner works best for flat work.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Robert Beers

15 Days Ago

My camera is a Canon Rebel. I am going to follow your advice on lighting and the flat setup. I can mount a 2x4 to the basement wall with nails running along it so any size canvas can be hung flat. With the old sheets, and the tripod, it may work. As my paintings are mostly 16x20 on up, the soft box may not work for the larger sizes, especially the 4'x4' canvases. Can't run them through a scanner.

The gallery is empty now except for my own blue boy painting. Once I have the photo thing figured out, I will try again. Thanks. I appreciate the advice.

 

Mike Savad

15 Days Ago

just make sure to use the same kind of bulb on both sides with the same color lighting. or it will be annoying to fix the color later. a 3000k bulb will make it warm, and i think too warm, everything will look yellow. 6500k will be too blue, i have shop likes that are 5000k, they are almost like sunlight. single bulbs will work, or if you want to get fancy (because they are not that expensive).

i use these as shop lights
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07838QM3V/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (not in stock now and i haven't tried it for photography yet). but they should work for a nice even lighting. there are a bunch to choose from. once you have a set up like that made you can shoot almost anything, like if you sell stuff on ebay.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Patty Donoghue

13 Days Ago

Hi Robert, Welcome.
2 tips to help you.

1. I have found that the Library book scanner does a fantastic job of getting high resolution scans of smaller sized prints or paintings. It is free. Just bring a big thumb drive.

2. Marketing is huge to make sales; since you said you hate that part, the other great thing here ,for a seasoned Artist like yourself, is that this site is easy to manage and a terrific inventory system. You are forced to name your pieces and describe them. Everything is there so that when you do have the opportunity to "sale", show your work, you have a big part of the job finished.

Best wishes to you.
Patty

 

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