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Roger Swezey

7 Days Ago

Hypersensitivity And The Artist

Spurred on by a regularly recurring thread,...

I contend, that being an artist IS being hypersensitive.

Seeing and feeling more intensely and reacting to it, defines the Artist


Any thoughts?


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Abbie Shores

7 Days Ago

I think that it's often used as an excuse for bad behaviour, Tbh.

I think the idea of it is used to often to explain away that behaviour

That's just a perception of one kind of artist. There are a myriad of personalities creating beautiful art and they are not all angst filled entities.

 

Mario Carta

7 Days Ago

Here'a a thought on that Roger, hypersensitivity might be what causes my blood pressure to rise in an instant, and yet you might read somewhere that people with emotive high blood pressure are said to be emotionally blind.

"Researchers reported that people with high blood pressure were less reactive when shown photographs and text passages meant to trigger emotions including fear, anger and happiness."


What came first the chicken or the egg?

 

David Bridburg

7 Days Ago

Roger,

I think anyone can be sensitive. Not sure what hypersensitivity is. There will undoubtedly be a definition for it, that though is probably full of falsehoods.

Job categories do not determine that. Unless you are digging coal out of the ground, perhaps.

Think of Rosy Greer, 87, and his knitting.

Dave

PS just saw an ad close to the top of the headlines on Yahoo, the ad is against avocados. Toxic. It is amazing how much time is spent by mankind making up false medical or in this case psych information.

 

Roger Swezey

7 Days Ago

RE: Sensitive

Cut and Paste (Merriam-Webster)

"sensitive adjective

sen·​si·​tive | ˈsen(t)-sə-tiv , ˈsen(t)s-təv
Definition of sensitive (Entry 1 of 2)
1: SENSORY sense 2
2a: receptive to sense impressions
b: capable of being stimulated or excited by external agents (such as light, gravity, or contact)"

I'm convinced, whether we like it or not, as artists we are more (hyper) receptive and are, by internal forces, compelled to react


 

Mike Savad

7 Days Ago

i'd be curious which thread this goes with. but i think people are too connected to their work, and/or they never heard anything negative sounding before its always been positive.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Jessica Jenney

7 Days Ago

Here is a site about this. Dr. Elaine Aron studies the innate temperament trait of high sensitivity.

https://hsperson.com/

 

David Bridburg

7 Days Ago

We all need to have manners because everyone else is sensitive, especially ourselves.

Dave

 

Jack Torcello

7 Days Ago

I think Robert Browning put it very succinctly
when he said that we are at our most naked
and vulnerable in our art: and all that 'soft
flesh', that deeply tender interior of our most
vulnerable selves - that it is all too much temp-
tation for some not to slash and hack at that
naked sensibility, to cause the maximum hurt
and damage in that unprotected area.

As a consequence, Robert Browning in being
so savaged, stopped with his poetry, his art
for over four years before he could find the
wherewithal to write again!

 

Roger Swezey

7 Days Ago

RE:....Sensitivity and the Artist

As Per Pearl S. Buck, the American novelist and recipient of the Pulitzer Prize and the Nobel Prize, captured what it means to be a highly sensitive person:
The truly creative mind in any field is no more than this: A human creature born abnormally, inhumanly sensitive. To him... a touch is a blow, a sound is a noise, a misfortune is a tragedy, a joy is an ecstasy, a friend is a lover, a lover is a god, and failure is death. Add to this cruelly delicate organism the overpowering necessity to create, create, create—so that without the creating of music or poetry or books or buildings or something of meaning, his very breath is cut off from him. He must create, must pour out creation. By some strange, unknown, inward urgency he is not really alive unless he is creating.

 

Ronald Walker

7 Days Ago

More sensitive than others? Would have no way of knowing or measuring that. I do know if a few days go by and I am not able to get into the studio I get grumpy. I also know that there is never a time, when I am awake, when I’m not on the lookout for ideas. I do believe that creativity is at the core of humanity and if that is connected to sensitivity then I would say that artist are not more sensitive but perhaps more open to allowing the creative, sensitive side to reveal itself.

 

Mike Savad

7 Days Ago

there are different kinds of hypersensitive though. an HSP may be sensitive to everything, just not so much feelings for the art. or they are emotionally sensitive but not to anything else.

like i'm hypersensitive to allergens, things that people aren't allergic to, i am for some reason. and i create new ones for no good reason.

others cry the second they show a little disapproval for something they made or did.

others are sensitive to light, sound, commotion, people in general, people with strong thoughts, violence and so on, the list goes on.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Jack Gandesbery

7 Days Ago

Yes sir far more emotionally bare to the world sort of like power lines with the insulation peeled back. What you’re describing can be historically verified. The flamboyant artist mentality driven by emotion goes back millions of years even to ancient Egypt. Artists are considered to be more sensitive to the light if you will. But in modern terms we find in studies of manic behavior that some of the world’s most creative people are described as manically depressed or bi-polar. Both are terms usually ostracized in common society because of lacking understanding in the area. However their art is considered a gift and they are held in the highest esteem. Some of the art created is verging on euphoric and divine joy while the lows have created art that is remarkably uncomfortable for some persona to view because of the conflict depicted in its truth.

 

Ronald Walker

7 Days Ago

Jack the concept of the sensitive artist does date back a bit but since ancient Egypt dates only about 5,000 years ago and our species has not been around for millions of years that might be a slight exaggeration.

 

David Bridburg

7 Days Ago

Know what they say you are only as sensitive as you think you are

 

RD Erickson

7 Days Ago

Hardly either sensitive or hyper sensitive. More like elephant hide, or is it rhino hide. Some folks would even say that I was insensitive to almost everything.

 

VIVA Anderson

7 Days Ago

RD....not true::I KNOW YOU ARE THE STRONG SILENT TYPE,+sensitive,xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Roger...Pearl was right for me...”abnormal “....so what?

 

Tara Farris

7 Days Ago

I agree with Mario.

 

Yuri Tomashevi

7 Days Ago

Women in general are more sensitive than men. Does it mean women are "more artists" than men? Or does it mean that there are more women artists than man artists?

I think a sensitivity is not a right measure to check out a value of artistry in people.

 

Ronald Walker

6 Days Ago

Rather a broad statement Yuri. I think the stereotype is that women are more sensitive but I honestly think it is more of an individual thing. You are probably right from the standpoint that it is more acceptable for women to express feelings, rather sad I might add. Perhaps that is the reason more homicides and other violent crimes are committed by men, I don’t know

 

Mario Carta

6 Days Ago

I wonder why it is that humans have a tendency to want to pigeonhole everything from art styles to art movements to what is or is not art. I just never can place myself in anyone category or classification even if I try because I always prove it wrong or find an exception or I find that I change over time.

Humans are such capable and complex beings that I think we can be all things and yet be none in particular and I see no need to be classified, the second we accept broad classifications and believe them to the exclusion of something else it only serves to limit us, we become what we think we are.

 

Ronald Walker

6 Days Ago

Nice statement Mario.

 

Abbie Shores

6 Days Ago

Whoa

Women in general are more sensitive than men

Only when men make stupid, inaccurate, misogynistic statements

 

Yuri Tomashevi

6 Days Ago


Agneta H. Fischer, "Gender differences in emotion perception and self-reported emotional intelligence: A test of the emotion sensitivity hypothesis", https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5784910/.

Excerpt from the Abstract:

"In the present research based on a community sample of more than 5000 participants, we tested the emotional sensitivity hypothesis, stating that women are more sensitive to perceive subtle, i.e. low intense or ambiguous, emotion cues.

In addition, we included a self-report emotional intelligence test in order to examine any discrepancy between self-perceptions and actual performance for both men and women.

We used a wide range of stimuli and models, displaying six different emotions at two different intensity levels. In order to better tap sensitivity for subtle emotion cues, we did not use a forced choice format, but rather intensity measures of different emotions.

We found no support for the emotional sensitivity account, as both genders rated the target emotions as similarly intense at both levels of stimulus intensity.

Men, however, more strongly perceived non-target emotions to be present than women.

In addition, we also found that the lower scores of men in self-reported EI [Emotional Intelligence] was not related to their actual perception of target emotions, but it was to the perception of non-target emotions."



 

Roger Swezey

6 Days Ago

How about?

Instead of "Hypersensistive"

Let's try: "Hyperperceptive"



Edit: This term maybe more acceptable to some of our male artists

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J L Meadows

6 Days Ago

There's a price for everything. The price for talent is often hypersensitivity and a melancholy, introvertive personality. It can be fatal, i.e. Van Gogh.

 

Roger Swezey

4 Days Ago

Uther

RE...." Familiar vs. Not Relating"

I believe there's a third,

Work that initially is unfamiliar but eventually becomes relatable

That's what I call ART


Edit:

I remember B.V (before vultures) when I would point out to people who regularly went in and out of the Seagram Building in New York, how the window in the lobby, perfectly framed the building across the street , The New York Racquet and Tennis Club, " I never noticed that", was the common response.... I firmly believe, deep down they felt that....And that was one reason why the Seagram Building so different than all the surrounding buildings was such a comfortable neighbor...... And that is why Mies van der Rohe was not just an architect but an artist

 

Mario Carta

4 Days Ago

"Hypersensitive? ME ?!" Lol!................

 

Abbie Shores

4 Days Ago

I can close it for you if you wish, Robert.......
*Smiles innocently*

 

David Bridburg

4 Days Ago

Are there genes towards generations of creation?

Of course there are. We are human, we are artists, we have human DNA.

My DNA strains were into weaving, tailoring, and art........music as well......

Ironically, my oldest nephew was entranced as an 1.5 year old toddler with trains. His preschool teachers said he was the only child putting things together. This was happening because to run the trains, he had to put the tracks together. Meanwhile my grandfather the tailor, his brothers and father worked on the railroad before working as tailors.

The analytics, my parents' generation going to college, because of the systematic workings of their parents in tailoring?

But ya know there are plenty of other talented human beings based on DNA working hard as professionals in other fields.

Dave Bridburg

 

Tara Farris

4 Days Ago


This is the third time I have written this. Do you know if you write something on this page and then leave the page and come back what you wrote down will have been deleted. I didn't know until now. Or maybe it's the amount of time passed. Not sure. I'm very new at this. Maybe Abbie knows.

Jack, I do not have at this time a crock of caca for viewing. Hahahaha.... I might have to consider painting one, and if I do it will probably be an abstract.

I don't think artists are hyper or over anything. What an artist sees or senses is a necessity. How else are you going to create something if you don't spend some time with it? I think artists see things and want to make it into their own creation.

As for the artists who think they're better than others, I think that's their personality, and you can find that in all walks of life. I've said that before..

Another thought just came to mind. Maybe the reason artists got such a bad reputation for being moody, or sensitive might have something to do with the paints and artistic supplies the Masters used way back when were toxic. Also, bad lighting, lack of sleep. Some of the artists were poor which means they didn't eat very well, all these things could contribute to an attitude problem. Just a thought.



 

Roger Swezey

4 Days Ago


Tara,

RE:...."Crock of Caca"

I'm reminded of the time in the 1980's when I spent a month in the Outback of northwestern Australia.

Constantly, being warned that my life might be snuffed out any minute by one of the many dangerous creatures inhabiting the place.

Especially the scary,scary crocodile.

When taken through the wetlands, all I saw was a bunch of "crocologs", hearing continually, "There's one" and as we got closer "Sorry mate"

While there, I created a tee shirt with a large reptile draping over my right shoulder.

Going around as "Alligator Swezey"

Claiming, that there were more alligators in the subways of New York, than these so-called crocodiles there


After leaving the Outback, I went to Cairns to meet friends I made through correspondence.

An artist couple active in designing tee shirts. especially for the tourist trade

While there, I came up with a few designs that turned out to be rather successful.

One was of a ceramic pot with flies all around it,

With the words "WATCH OUT FOR THE CROCKS"


 

Floyd Snyder

4 Days Ago

The best bio on all of FAA goes to Robert Kernodle! https://pixels.com/profiles/robert-kernodle?tab=about





Sorry Robert, I don't mean to embarrass you. I will remove it you would like me too.

 

Joy McKenzie

4 Days Ago

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David Bridburg

4 Days Ago

All relativism has done is fall in on itself.

Ashes to ashes dust to dust......nothing new......

Perhaps the contrast of all that survives is beauty. Is that why artists are more aware, more sensitive?

Dave Bridburg

 

Uther Pendraggin

4 Days Ago

Roger,

Yes. I am familiar with the Geico Gecko through the ancient art of mass media advertising.

I hold that in order for an image (one, two or three dimensional) to resonate there has to be some level of simpatico before the sight of it. It might not be Vultures in particular... I'm not going to tell you about your customers...

To teach anything we have to take the student from the known to the unknown. We have to have a place that the new knowledge can connect to. Then come from.

Mechanisms of the self aren't custom made to the situation. The mechanisms are essentially the operating system, they do the same thing over and over, problem solving. As such we can assume that the process of learning from art follows the same pattern. Therefore there is something in the art that finds that place to connect. and then understanding can grow from there.

PLAU
UPD

 

Tara Farris

4 Days Ago

Hi Joy, thanks for responding. I wasn't finished with what I was writing when I left the page then came back and it was gone. Oh well, doesn't matter, I won't do that again.

Just to let you all know I am going on hiatus from FAA until Jan 26th. The only reason I am letting you know is, I don't want you to think I am rude or angry for not responding if you happen to write something to me. It's been a pleasure and fun communicating with you all. I'll get back to you in 11 days. The Lord willing and the creek don't rise. Tara


Oh P.S. Roger, that's a great story. It reminds of the deer droppings jewelry they used to sell to tourists at Shasta Dam back in the late 60's early 70's.

 

Roger Swezey

4 Days Ago

Uther,

RE:...."Simpatico " ..Yes?..No?...Maybe

Let me tell you a story:


I was doing a street Art fair....This fine, fine young lady,....decked out in the latest high fashion...with a demeanor indicative of very proper upbringing, came walking by.

She first goes past my display...The turns around and comes back.....with a quizzical look.

I'm sure she was asking herself, "Why is this stuff at an art show??" adding "And why am I staring at it??
,
"VULTURES??? Who would want VULTURES??, and it's SHELL CRAFT..How Low can you go??? and it's certainly NOT museum quality"

" And here I am standing, staring at this particular rather elaborate piece.................I GOT TO HAVE IT!!!!" she continues, under her breath


"BUT WAIT!!!....What are my friends going to think,.........You Paid How Much For THAT !!!, they going to torment me with!!!"

"I'll guess I'll buy this smaller, less expensive piece"


As she approaches with the small sculpture in hand, a "Biker" comes roaring into the booth...A leather coated, bare chested, tatood ,300 pound Biker

"MAN!! THIS GREAT SH*T" he bellows....Grabs that elaborate piece.....Plunks down the cash......And stomps away


The look on the lovely young lady, was priceless, as she takes out her credit card.

 

Robert Kernodle

4 Days Ago

I can close it for you if you wish, Robert.......
*Smiles innocently*
... Abbie
(^_^)

Tarra F, ... You can check in, but you can never leave, without being erased. In the past, I have spent many minutes composing what I thought was an intelligent, detailed, thoughtful post, only to leave momentarily to check a fact and return to a blank. Probably some of my best comments have disappeared this way.

Floyd S,

That bio is the short version. Somewhere, if you scroll down near the bottom of a page, you'll see the full version, with that as the last paragraph. This was my first ever bio for Fine Art America, and it has received several compliments. I'm honored that yours is among those now.

 

Joy McKenzie

4 Days Ago

It's because of the auto-refresh, I think. I think the page refreshes on its own every minute or so? Not sure of the timing.

 

Robert Kernodle

4 Days Ago

Floyd S, ... I think the best bio is Tony Murray's ... https://pixels.com/profiles/tony-murray -- it mocks the stereotype of hypersensitivity that is the topic of this thread. (^_^)

 

Ronald Walker

3 Days Ago

Pretending that artist are more sensitive and aware of stuff, are there other fields in which the same can be said? Or are there fields in which being a clueless oaf is a benefit?

 

Ronald Walker

3 Days Ago

IE , an art critic perhaps? :)

 

David Bridburg

3 Days Ago

Do not bring up Jerry Saltz's name in vain.

Dave Bridburg

 

Ronald Walker

3 Days Ago

Dave :)

 

Uther Pendraggin

3 Days Ago

Roger,

I'm not sure if that comes in affirmation of what I have said or if it is presented as refutation.

I would say that it is affirmation. I don't know what darkness brought the princess and the street tuff together in their curiosity, although it is the stuff of love stories from the earliest yearnings of a common lad for the leg of "Fair Maiden" as she rode past on her trusted gelding.

The point being that there needs to be that connection to her "unknown known zone." she found herself drawn, against her better judgment, to the imagery of your art.

At this point I don't really recall what we were discussing... I guess I can twist it around to her "hypersensitivity" and we can talk for a second about the relativistic quality based upon quantity of stimuli.

Which is to say that one can be both opaque and hypersensitive to the same thing at the same time. If the connection is small to start with, it can be easy to ignore the impulse to scratch the itch. But then when faced with a strong impulse it can be seen as a "Hyper sensitivity" one which breaks through the barrier of indifference to become a priority.

The larger the base to which the stimuli can connect the lower the absolute sensitivity needs to be to alter one's behavior. As such, the artist needn't be "Hypersensitive" it's just that the frame of reference (the connection point) is just "wider" and takes less "energy" for it to become a priority.

There is a certain amount of Hammer involved there (The old saying in the sales business being "When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a nail." which does help explain how artists can connect to "the muse" while working and have no apparent connection in other aspects of their lives.

PLAU
UPD

 

David Bridburg

3 Days Ago

Jerry Saltz stand back. Art philosophy, whatever that is, rides again.



Dave Bridburg

 

Roger Swezey

3 Days Ago

Uther, and All,


RE:......."Hyper"

I admit "Hyper" may be a bit Hyperbolic

I just wanted to produce a little heat

It's Winter after all.

O.K. I'll bring it down a bit and make this thread simply "Bolic"


Now, about that very fine,fine young lady.

Her initial senses, (both her innate sense and her learned sensibility) told her that my work was worthy of being dismissed, as she walked pass my display.

Only after coming back ( since my work was being presented as "Art") and standing there did her opinion change.

I would imagine had she encountered one of my pieces at a different setting, and not at an ART SHOW, she would have just passed it by and never to turn back.


What kept me going all these years are these words I've heard many, many times, "Gee, I never saw it that way before."



 

Kathy Anselmo

3 Days Ago

I've been living in urban areas for so long you get the sensitivity metaphorically beaten out of you.

 

Uther Pendraggin

3 Days Ago

"Gee, I never saw it that way before."

Exactly... They had some connection, they had a known, and then your art took them into knowing something that was unknown to them before.

We're on the same chapter, if not the exact page together.

PLAU
UPD

 

J L Meadows

2 Days Ago

Instead of creating anything anymore, I just surf the web and play videogames. Sometimes I wish I'd never posted my art online.

 

Roger Swezey

1 Day Ago

JL,

YOU created this MASTERPIECE:


Art Prints

This is your description:

"An art piece depicting a cheetah languishing in a zoo. But no wall can truly contain its wild spirit. It WILL break free.."


No wall can truly contain your wild spirit, JL,.......You WILL break free.

PLEASE, PLEASE Keep CREATING your ART.


Note: To All,

I bought a print of this PURE ART, and treasure the purchase.

 

J L Meadows

1 Day Ago

Roger, I'm nearly in tears. Thank you. I'm sorry to complain so much. Life has really beaten me down in terms of spirit. Thank you for encouraging me.

 

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